McGerrymandering

williamhague

If you suspect that even with a three-tier referendum potentially allowing your preferred result through without a plurality on the first choice still would not return this result, what to do?

Suggest lowering the minimum age so that you get an additional cohort of 125,000 voters who may not have even been born when a certain xenophobic film was released, but are statistically-inclined to your preferred view.

In a letter to South of Scotland MSP Aileen Campbell, Constitution Minister Michael Russell MSP said:

“I can confirm that it is the Scottish Government’s intention that 16- and 17-year-olds are given the opportunity to vote in the referendum that decides Scotland’s future to the extent that this is practicable. As you rightly point out in your letter, franchise issues are not devolved but reserved to the UK Parliament so the specific legislation will have to address this issue. It is my intention to make provisions to this effect in the Referendum Bill that essentially reflect the approach taken for the elections to NHS Boards in Scotland.”

You can also title your press release to suggest the die has been cast, without the tricky bit about state-approval. And if anyone objects, you could then turn on the passive aggression by claiming they are refusing to allow the little cherubs a say in the most significant political event in Scotland when a poncey, flatulent Italian landed with his eye on the British crown.

Simples!

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4 Responses to “McGerrymandering”

  1. Indy Says:

    Firstly I don’t think you know what gerrymandering means. It refers to drawing or re-drawing the boundaries of a constituency to achieve a particular outcome. i.e. it is basically just corruption. It does not really go on any more as the Boundary Commission is fairly neutral.

    Secondly, the SNP has not suggested lowering the voting age to 16 specifically for the independence referendum. It is SNP policy to lower the voting age to 16 full stop, and that has been on record for a long time e.g. check the Electoral Commission consultation on voting age from a number of years ago.

    Thirdly, as SU has pointed out recent polls do not suggest that younger voters are statistically-inclined to support independence.

    So on all three grounds your conspiracy theory falls.

    Not surprisingly – grown ups surely know that most conspiracy theories are crap.

  2. Alec Says:

    Firstly, if not gerrymandering, then whatever term refers to manipulation of those eligible for a vote: not a good defence. Furthermore, to gerrymander is not an etymologically-precise verb, but a portmanteau word which refers to only one of Elridge Gerry’s jolly wheezes and which has become synomous with disreputable alterations of the voter-base.

    Secondly, I’m as opposed to that as I am to this, and it shows a stunning political immaturity and window-dressing.

    Thirdly, citations? I’m happy to stand corrected, but all the news sources I found (I don’t read just one) indicated the above without refutations from the SNP. Not that it’s integral as I don’t think 16/8 year olds have the emotional intelligence to receive the franchize, and this of all issues is one ripe for manipulation.

    Oh, Indy, d’you remember when you dismissed a bias towards opposing al-Megrahi’s release amongst younger Scots as by individuals less likely to vote (party popularity, apparently a significant factor) and an irrationalal, emotion-driven “war on terror generation”? Told you that remark would come back to haunt you.

    Lastly, I am not suggesting a conspiracy theory. Trust me, I’m not one to get into an argument about what defines these!

  3. Indy Says:

    Alec I said that younger people are less likely to vote than older people. I did not suggest that they are irrational or emotion driven (as anybody can verify for themselves).

    I would suggest that you check out SU’s website for his evidence that younger voters are less likely to vote SNP or support independence.

    Personally I do not support lowering the voting age, in fact I would probably raise it if that was a choice.

    However SNP policy is consistent albeit, in my view, wrong.

  4. Alec Says:

    >> Alec I said that younger people are less likely to vote than older people. I did not suggest that they are irrational or emotion driven (as anybody can verify for themselves).

    Yes you did. You agreed with al-Megrahi’s release, and “war on terror generation” wasn’t exactly a compliment; although I do see the reasoning behind it.

    >> I would suggest that you check out SU’s website for his evidence that younger voters are less likely to vote SNP or support independence.

    Once again, there are “younger voters” (say, 18-24), and there are 16 and 17 year old gimps who are to be assumed not to be displaying responsibility associated with full participation in civic society until proven otherwise. It’s this second group I’m referring to.

    More than anything, it’s for their own good. Who’d want to end up like that grinning satsuma?

    >> Personally I do not support lowering the voting age, in fact I would probably raise it if that was a choice.

    Indeed. I’d recommend 30… okay, 25 for women, 30 for men.

    >> However SNP policy is consistent albeit, in my view, wrong.

    Gosh. I need a lie down.

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