Down the Rabbit Hole with Councillor Terry Kelly

Councillor Terry Kelly represents Ward 4 of Paisley North West, and is some sort of socialist. When I first heard of his personal blog, I had to ask if it were a spoof as I could not believe such an individual could exist.

But, exist he does.

As discussed at the Sauce Bottle, a ketamine-addled vision of him appeared in one thread’s comments boxes, causing many to doubt the man’s sanity. Yet, all was not so, and it appeared this had been a highly developed Turing test, as a subsequent missive conceded.

Then attention turned to his own blog, including one missive which used “Jews” and “Israelis” interchangeably and, taken on face value, suggested the best way for Jews to win “the respect and affection of most of the world “gain sympathy would be to face a genocide.

I then compared these sentiments to those of Denis Avey, a British soldier who smuggled himself into the death-camps of Auschwitz and, aged 91, is in line to be made a Righteous Amongst Nations by Yad Vashem in Jerusalem.

Time passed, and last night someone posting as Terry Kelly responded:

Someone told me about this reference to me and Allthough I don’t usually read other blogs, I read this and I recognise Mr. Avey as exactly the kind of man who won the sympathy and respect of people all over the world after the second world war.

I can’t help wondering now what Mr. Lavey thinks or would have thought of Israel today and what his reaction to the attack on Gaza approx 1 year ago is or would have been? Could someone hazard a guess without prejudice or invective and let me know?

Not wishing to be fooled again, I posted to Kelly’s own blog asking for confirmation, which he duly gave. The world-authority on Cllr. Terry Kelly, Clairwil, has resigned her position after being taken in my the forgery and not believing the Real McCoy.

I assume, therefore, that the Police complaint about his spoofing which Kelly initiated has come to nowt.

Okay, now to respond to Kelly’s remark:

[1] “Don’t usually read other blogs”, Terry? I would prefer not to admit to being ignorant of differing opinion and taking pride in my ignorance;

[2] Denis Avey is not Jewish, as your first paragraph implies;

[3] Please be consistent when spelling the man’s name;

[4] In the run-up to Holocaust Memorial Day this year, you opined on your blog:

I wonder if Israel will have the effrontery to award people with the “Righteous Among the Nations” award after they have finished cleaning away the blood of the children massacred by them, what moral authority does Israel now have, can Israel or anyone who supports their actions ever use the phrase “Righteous Among the Nations” again? and remember we still haven’t had the election yet, anyone with any shred of decency who is offered the award of “Righteous Among the Nations” should refuse to accept it and those who have this award should return it.

[4 cont…] Given that Avey is now accepting the blessing of Yad Yashem (no more synonymous with Israel as Jews are), I think it is safe to assume he does not share your views;

[5] Whatever the rights and wrongs – or, more accurately, both – of Israeli policy are, comparing it to Nazi actions is and always should be akin to turning up at a convention on black-on-black violence in white hoods and waving nooses, i.e. racial arson.

For what it is worth, I do not think that Kelly, as an individual, is an antisemite. Just a moron. In much of political Scotland there are similar figures – still rooted in a sectarian mindset in which they see unflinching support for whichever party/camp they are in as essential, and any criticism of it to be similarly unflinching support for their designated foes.

Poorly educated, inarticulate and lacking in any sense of proportion they look for easy, risk-free ceritudes (such as limiting their boycotting of Israeli products to olive oil and tomatoes in winter, and not pharmaceuticals or Intel chips) and, but for a quirk of fate, could be “cybernats”.

This does not excuse him. Considering Kelly’s interchanging of Jews and Israelis, and egregious offense in the Nazi-comparison, serious doubts exist in my mind of his being able to fairly represent Jewish constituents – or any other group which is designated the enemy by Kelly.

Paisley is at the centre of Scotland’s Jewish population, and during the Operation Summer Rain in 2006, a nearby synagogue was vandalized as shown to the right (HAT-TIP Engage Online).

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60 Responses to “Down the Rabbit Hole with Councillor Terry Kelly”

  1. Terry Kelly Says:

    “I assume, therefore, that the Police complaint about his spoofing which Kelly initiated has come to nowt.”

    You assume wrong. But lets draw a line under what you have written up to here, it’s embarrasing, for you not me.

    (1) more embarrassment for you.

    (2) wrong again, there are a great many like Avey not Jewsish who earned respect for what they did, a poor jibe.

    (3) you’ve got me there, claim that as a great victory.

    (4) the answer you are groping for here is “I don’t know” and I suspect that you don’t want to know.

    (5) sactimonious, arrogant, bulldung. an ad hominem display of prejudice and pompous self rightiousness. And you did not answer my question. You made an assumption about what Avey would think I clearly don’t know him any better than you do and I suspect that he like many other Jewish sympathisers would be appalled at what they have done and continue to do, NB I said Jewish, not to be confused with Israel. I expected better.

  2. efrafandays Says:

    You assume wrong.

    Then it’s a good job I checked it was you! Still, it’s a bit foolish to admit to making similar remarks which you claim were falsely attributed to you.

    But lets draw a line under what you have written up to here, it’s embarrasing, for you not me.

    Everything *I* have written is referenced in this missive. I played no part in your spoofing.

    I found your remarks about the blessing of Righteous Amongst Nations to be profane. Avey is accepting this recognition. He has made no remarks about Israeli policy. Do not co-opt in this man, whose anti-fascist credentials are a lot stronger than yours, for your ends.

    You are an elected councillor, Terry. Whether you think your blog can be separated by a simple disclaimer does not take into account your remarks which many – including me – have seen as flirting with incitement to violence against Jews (who constitute a separate ethnic group until race relations legislation) or, at the very least, insensitivity to anti-Jewish racism.

    What would you have thought of the vandalism at Garnethill Synagogue?

    NB I said Jewish, not to be confused with Israel.

    You certainly appear to.

  3. Terry Kelly Says:

    “Terry. Whether you think your blog can be separated by a simple disclaimer does not take into account your remarks which many – including me – have seen as flirting with incitement to violence against Jews (who constitute a separate ethnic group until race relations legislation) or, at the very least, insensitivity to anti-Jewish racism”

    This is a lie and you are a liar, I am not anti Semitic in any way, the underhand attack by you and people like you is designed to equate my opposition to Israel and my support for the Palestinians as anti Semitism; you are beneath contempt.

    It is easy to understand why you cling desperately to anonymity.

    Mr. Avey may or may not support Israel I did not say either way, that is another lie, I can however supply you with plenty of Jewish people who are appalled as I am at Israel’s behaviour; are they anti Semitic too?

    • efrafandays Says:

      Tooth-picks, tooth-picks, I’m being attacked by tooth-picks!

      This is a lie and you are a liar, I am not anti Semitic in any way

      I didn’t say you were. In fact, I explicitly stated that I did *not* think you were antisemitic (it isn’t hyphenated). Although I have encountered overt antisemitism in certain individuals connected to Scottish PSC movements.

      the underhand attack by you and people like you is designed to equate my opposition to Israel and my support for the Palestinians as anti Semitism; you are beneath contempt.

      You are not pro-Palestinian but anti-Israel, as you have just conceded. You support the most trenchantly violent/intolerant forces against the Israeli state whilst implicitly declaring those Palestinian Arabs who would accommodate it (on account of their, not you having to endure whatever ‘peace’ you wish) to be non-Palestinian..

      Israel has the largest and most-imperiled single concentration of Jews in the world, and European antisemitism has tended to direct its ire at such a thing. You invoke Nazi imagery to berate Israelis and compare Gaza to Warsaw or Auschwitz, despite the historicity being way out… the only conceivable reason is, as with having ropes and white hoods at demonstration against black-on-black violence, to warn them what would happen if they didn’t ‘behave’.

      It is easy to understand why you cling desperately to anonymity.

      As I’ve said, my identity could be revealed with mere minutes of investigation. I am simply hiding from Google.

      I don’t expect other private individuals to publish their contact details. You are an elected councillor, using this position to add credence to your public statements. Your publicizing your contact details is not selfless… these already are in the public domain.

      Mr. Avey may or may not support Israel I did not say either way, that is another lie,

      Of course you said he was. You said:

      I can’t help wondering now what Mr. Lavey thinks or would have thought of Israel today and what his reaction to the attack on Gaza approx 1 year ago is or would have been? Could someone hazard a guess without prejudice or invective and let me know?

      On single nights, Avey would have been in the vicinity of more deaths – of Jews killed as Jews – than occurred during all Israeli military action this century, and before. He would have seen sights such as this:

      Not this:

      What he saw left him unable to speak about it, even to his wife, for 60 years. Maybe, just maybe he has a sense of persepective.?

      I can however supply you with plenty of Jewish people who are appalled as I am at Israel’s behaviour; are they anti Semitic too?

      Oh, gawd, you’re not going to suggest Deborah Fink or Gerald Kaufman or Alexei Sayle? I think they’re self-regarding and consider their status as Jews to give them an unimpeachable authority.

      The majority of Jews (in excess of 95% or so) alive now are supportive, to some extent, of the state of Israel. If one of t’others can only appeal to their status as a Jew then it’s a shallow argument.

  4. Ana Says:

    Force them to act as they once did; when their treatment under the Nazis won them the respect and affection of most of the world.

    This comment appears on your own blog, for all to see. There is no wriggle room here, no way you can paint that comment as anything other than vicious and offensive.

    Even in your last comment here you talk of your ‘opposition to Israel’. Do you mean disagreement with some of the Israeli Governments decisions or do you mean wholesale opposition to the State of Israel? You do yourself no favours by presenting your opinions in such a muddled manner.

    I agree that you are not a real anti-semite, just a moron.

  5. efrafandays Says:

    Also, Terry, now that I’ve answered your question (albeit not to your satisfaction), could you answer a couple of mine:

    [*] What are your thoughts on the vandalism of Garnethill synagogue in August 2006, as I linked to above?;

    [*] Do you avoid Israeli-developed technology, such as Intel chips or mobile ‘phones as part of your boycotting activities?

  6. Terry Kelly Says:

    efrafandays Says: 22/02/2010 at 19:41

    We have been over this many times, what has happened is that you and people like you have spotted something written by me which you have twisted to get the meaning which serves your purpose.

    That purpose is to damage anyone who opposes the State of Israel; nothing else matters to you hence the lies and poison flows easily from you but; I know what it is about and so do most people.

    You will not get the better of me and you will not intimidate me you are in fact confirming my opinion of the Zionist liars and thugs who support Israel and it’s crimes. Your pictures are no substitute for reasoned argument; stop exploiting the victims you should be ashamed.

    • efrafandays Says:

      That purpose is to damage anyone who opposes the State of Israel; nothing else matters to you hence the lies and poison flows easily from you but; I know what it is about and so do most people.

      You will not get the better of me

      Infamy, infamy, they’ve all got it in for me!

      and you will not intimidate me

      One needs a sense of self-awareness before that happens.

      you are in fact confirming my opinion of the Zionist liars and thugs who support Israel and it’s crimes.

      Now, there you go making things up, Terry. Criticism of Israel is not, and should not be construed as inherently antisemitic… it’s when you declare that it *cannot* be antisemitic that problems start. And people linked to the SPSC start promoting neo-Nazi and Holocaust Denial material.

      You referred the forcing “them” to behave as they did under the Nazis. This referred to European Jews, several years before the founding of Israel… this is not directly related to Israel, but to your perception of Jews.

      But, by all means, turn the conversation onto the true hero of the discussion – not Palestinian Arabs, but *you*.

      Most people? Including the billions in the Chinese and Indian hinterlands? Or by most, d’you mean the handful of anoraks who take an interest in Western streets?

      Your pictures are no substitute for reasoned argument;

      Yes, actually, they are. The second one was from a Gazan shop. This is not Auschwitz.

  7. Terry Kelly Says:

    Ana Says: 22/02/2010 at 18:43 | Reply

    “Do you mean disagreement with some of the Israeli Governments decisions or do you mean wholesale opposition to the State of Israel?”

    I mean both but I know that Israel is not going to go away. I don’t consider my opinions muddled in the least; read my reply to efrafandys.

    • efrafandays Says:

      >> I mean both but I know that Israel is not going to go away.

      The dismantling of a nation state against the will of her inhabitants is only ever going to be atrociously violent. Even if I thought that blanket criticism of Israel could be disentangled totally from antisemitism (I don’t), you appear to be arguing for wholesale violence against civilians… and questions are raised about your ability to counsel to any Jewish constituents who don’t share your views and/or who may have been the victims of physical/verbal abuse.

      Plus, if you accept Israel ain’t going to go away, why are you devoting time to attempt to bring this about? Surely your time would be better spent securing a peace, through organizations such as OneVoice Movement?

  8. Terry Kelly Says:

    efrafandays Says: 22/02/2010 at 19:27 | Reply

    (*) I would not share my thoughts on the vandalism of a Synagogue with anyone who could ask such a question in this context.

    (*) I have already written about this; I never have and never would knowingly buy anything from Israel.

    • efrafandays Says:

      [1] This incident occurred a stone’s throw from where you are, and is indelibly linked to the sentiments you’re expressing. So, yes, yes I do think it’s beholden on you to distance yourself from support… lest you wish to be seen as supportive of antisemitic attacks;

      [2] Well, you know differently now. When will you stop blogging via an Intel chip?

  9. Ana Says:

    O.K then Mr Kelly kindly explain to me the innocent and untwisted meaning of the phrase I quoted from your blog. I will happily consider your reply and adjust my opinion of you accordingly.

  10. Terry Kelly Says:

    Even if I thought that blanket criticism of Israel could be disentangled totally from antisemitism (I don’t) Well maybe we are getting somewhere at last, Anti Israel means anti Jew right? wrong, wrong,wrong.

    “you appear to be arguing for wholesale violence against civilians”

    Now you are really getting mixed up, it’s Israel that does that not me.

    “and questions are raised about your ability to counsel to any Jewish constituents who don’t share your views and/or who may have been the victims of physical/verbal abuse”

    Raised by whom? I hope you don’t mean you; because as far as I am concerned you don’t count. It doesn’t surprise me that you think this but please don’t assume that we all think like Zionists.

    “Plus, if you accept Israel ain’t going to go away, why are you devoting time to attempt to bring this about”

    I’m not you seem to be struggling to keep up.

    • efrafandays Says:

      Well maybe we are getting somewhere at last, Anti Israel means anti Jew right? wrong, wrong,wrong.

      No, try harder.

      Now you are really getting mixed up, it’s Israel that does that not me.

      Again, no… you stated your opposition to the state of Israel… what do you think would effect its demise? Everyone passively going out of existence? You also called for “them” to be forced to live as “they did under the Nazis”, which involved mass violence against civilians.

      Raised by whom? I hope you don’t mean you; because as far as I am concerned you don’t count.

      Clearly you do, or you wouldn’t be commenting here. Blogging – which you do – is all about individuals raising their thoughts. Plus, as you well know, this has also been raised in the Paisley Daily Express.

      I will ask again, are you sure you should be commenting here when you say there’s an ongoing Police investigation into your being spoofed?

      It doesn’t surprise me that you think this but please don’t assume that we all think like Zionists.

      There you go again, Terry. Sectarian division of your opponents

  11. efrafandays Says:

    Terry, do you believe the vandalism of Garnethill synagogue in August 2006 is to be condemned? Yes or no.

  12. Terry Kelly Says:

    Ana Says: 22/02/2010 at 20:09 | Reply

    I think you know this already Ana but I will have a go. The treatment of the Jews during the second world war won them the sympathy and respect of millions over the world including me and my 7 brothers and all my family; their suffering was difficult to imagine and their heroism in places like the Warsaw Ghetto and their courage and determination to survive and never give up in places like Auswitch, both of which I have visited, Auswitch twice, made them inspirational.

    What Israel is doing in Palestine is destroying that reverence and ocean of good will because rightly or wrongly people associate Israel with the Jews which I don’t; I truly don’t think that is too difficult to understand; I accept and have done publicly that my words were clumsy but I believe that some people have deliberately twisted them for their own ends which are to attack someone who is an enemy of Israel and a supporter of Palestine.

    • efrafandays Says:

      The treatment of the Jews during the second world war won them the sympathy and respect of millions over the world including me and my 7 brothers and all my family;

      Sheesh, it’s all about you, is it not? You are one minor councillor in a minor city. This is bigger than you and your beer-gut.

      heir suffering was difficult to imagine and their heroism in places like the Warsaw Ghetto and their courage and determination to survive and never give up in places like Auswitch, both of which I have visited, Auswitch twice, made them inspirational.

      Were there parties of Israeli school-children there with their national flag? I hope for their – but also your sake – you didn’t say anything.

      What Israel is doing in Palestine is destroying that reverence and ocean of good will because rightly or wrongly people associate Israel with the Jews which I don’t

      Yes you do, as you said in the very same sentence. Sympathy for Jewish suffering during the Shoah should be expressed for what it is – sympathy for fellow human beings.

      It is only to be considered contingent on one’s thoughts regarding Israel if you associate Jews with Israel, and require to former to disavow support for the latter… which is an antisemitic argument.

  13. Terry Kelly Says:

    efrafandays Says: 22/02/2010 at 20:25

    You are beneath contempt.

    • efrafandays Says:

      Do you believe the vandalism of Garnethill synagogue in August 2006 is to be condemned? Yes or no.

      If you answer yes, it will only reflect well on your insistence that you’re not antisemitic.

  14. Terry Kelly Says:

    efrafandays Says:

    22/02/2010 at 20:23 | Reply

    Repetition, you are docked a point.

  15. Terry Kelly Says:

    efrafandays Says: 22/02/2010 at 20:04
    (1) As I said you are beneath contempt.
    (2) Again as I said before you seem to be struggling to keep up ” I have never knowingly bought Israeli goods etc.) here is ahint for you the key word here is ‘knowingly’

    • efrafandays Says:

      [2] Well, it’s easy to determine which electronic and computer technology has been developed in Israel. Did you think boycotting is only about checking where your tomatoes and avocados come from?

  16. Terry Kelly Says:

    efrafandays Says: 22/02/2010 at 20:32 | Reply

    You are a seriously twisted character and you seem to be quite happy to regurgitate the same claptrap over and over; it’s like listening to a recacetrant child banging an empty drum.

    • efrafandays Says:

      I love the way you cannot answer a straight question, Terry! Here’s why I think you cannot:

      … if you say yes [it is to be condemned] you are in a quandary, as it will involve opposing a section of the movements you’ve associated yourself with. Had it been Nazi symbols, I have little doubt you’d condemn it. But, it’s Hezbollah – an antisemitic organization which kills/attacks Jews-as-Jews – and you don’t want to be seen condemning *that*;

      … if you no, there’s nowt wrong with daubing a synagogue (which was built 70 years before Israel was founded) with Hezbollah symbols, then you are approving of vandalism on Jewish religious buildings ‘cos of Israel.

      You are probably stalling for time until you find out what the central committee position on the vandalism. You’re a follower, Terry, not a leader.

    • Ana Says:

      Using big words only makes you look clever if you can spell them. Likewise, it concerns me that you have twice visited Auschwitz but still cannot spell it.

      So far you have failed to explain the quote I asked you about, beyond admitting that you are not a very good writer. You have stated that you oppose the existence of the state of Israel and refused to condemn an attack on a synagogue only a few miles from the ward you represent.

      The only twisted character in this discussion is you.

  17. Terry Kelly Says:

    efrafandays Says: 22/02/2010 at 20:33 | Reply

    Repeating such a filthy question actually says quite a lot about you.

    • efrafandays Says:

      Yes it does. Incredulity that you cannot express a position on the vandalism of a synagogue.

  18. Terry Kelly Says:

    efrafandays Says: 22/02/2010 at 20:44

    Some of those tomatoes and avcocados come from the West bank and Israeli settlers label them ‘produce of the West Bank’ underhand don’t you think. Maybe I decided that the Israeli computer product was superiour and I decided to temporarily avoid my boycott; what do you think; see that’s you assuming that everyone thinks like a Zionist again.

    • efrafandays Says:

      Maybe I decided that the Israeli computer product was superiour and I decided to temporarily avoid my boycott

      I laughed so hard that a bit of wee-wee came out.

    • Ana Says:

      How do Zionist think, exactly?

      Mr. Kelly you stated that you had ‘never knowingly’ bought Israeli goods. Yet here you are suggesting that you might have bought Israeli goods on purpose. And you have called us liars!

      • efrafandays Says:

        Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…

        ~*pauses to breathe*~

        … hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

  19. Terry Kelly Says:

    efrafandays Says: 22/02/2010 at 20:51 | Reply

    I think the answer must be getting through by now – you are beneath contempt.

    • efrafandays Says:

      Why? ‘Cos I want to know if you condemn vandalism of synagogues?

  20. Terry Kelly Says:

    efrafandays Says: 22/02/2010 at 20:52 | Reply

    Of course I can do that; are you stupid as well as devious?

    • efrafandays Says:

      Good. Do you condemn the vandalism of *Garnethill* synagogue in August 2006, which nvolved Hezbollah symbols being daubed outside?

  21. Terry Kelly Says:

    efrafandays Says: 22/02/2010 at 20:54 | Reply

    It’s not a joke if only one person understands/laughs.

    • efrafandays Says:

      It’s not significant that only one person understands/laughs if only one person has thus far seen it.

  22. Terry Kelly Says:

    efrafandays Says: 22/02/2010 at 20:55 | Reply

    I’m not telling you you will just have to make up your own mind.

  23. Terry Kelly Says:

    efrafandays Says: 22/02/2010 at 20:57 | Reply

    I’m not going to answer and you can’t make me so there.

  24. efrafandays Says:

    Terry, do you think it’s appropriate to be doing this when the Police, apparently, are investigating separate complaints of your being impersonated?

  25. Terry Kelly Says:

    Ana Says: 22/02/2010 at 20:57 | Reply

    Ana, I have always taken the view that being understood is far more important than spelling or punctuation etc. are you saying that you are struggling to understand what I say because I have made a spelling
    mistake? you asked me to explain my position but you don’t seem to want to respond.

    If you still do not understand my position as far as the Jewish people are concerned and you still suggest that I need to explain my position re. attacks on Synagogues then there is not much hope for this process. I find it difficult to believe how obvious you are and how wrong, are you really saying that I am anti Semitic or is it just that I’m a moron?

    I made another mistake I believed you when you invited me to explain, it won’t happen again.

    • Ana Says:

      I have responded to you further up the thread, however I shall repeat myself.

      I do not find your explanation satisfactory. The explanation that you have given for the phrase I quoted to you appears to be that your writing was clumsy. That is an excuse, not an explanation.

      Your ‘explanation’ further compounded the offensiveness of the comment, as has been pointed out to you @ 20.32.

      I do not know you. I can only make judgements about you and your opinions based on what you say/write. In this discussion you have

      *Stated you do not support the existence of Israel
      *Refused to condemn an attack on a synagogue
      *Described yourself as an enemy of Israel, the worlds only Jewish state and seen as the symbol of Jewish self determination by the majority of the worlds Jewish population
      *Lied with regards to your boycott of Israeli goods

      None of this makes you look good. You do neither yourself, nor your cause any favours by your behaviour here.

      With regards to your spelling: you are correct, being understood is far more important, and yes I am able to understand you. However, correct spelling shows that a degree of care has been taken and appears far more professional. Place names, particularly if that place name is Auschwitz, deserve to be spelt correctly.

  26. Terry Kelly Says:

    efrafandays Says: 22/02/2010

    did we not both see it?

  27. Terry Kelly Says:

    Ana Says: 22/02/2010 at 21:02 | Reply

    Ana please don’t take this as an insult but is English your first language? if so have you come to the page which explains ‘irony’ ?

    • efrafandays Says:

      Irony is an oft misused word, when paradoxical or unfortunate coincidence is more appropriate. I suspect you mean sardonic [1].

      The argument you’re presenting strikes me as hugely ironic… it’s just that I don’t feel like laughing.

      [1] Even if you weren’t being serious, your commitment to a boycott is still suspect as you’ve failed to do the most basic research beyond checking where your tomatoes and avocados come from.

    • Ana Says:

      Yes English is indeed my first (and only) language. I am familiar with the page that explains irony. I think my confusion here is due to the fact that I have not yet reached the page that explains ‘understanding the garbled rambling of Cllr Terry Kelly’.

  28. Terry Kelly Says:

    efrafandays Says: 22/02/2010 at 21:12 | Reply

    I have no idea but if you think I am doing somethinh wrong then you should report me; it’s your duty as a loyal collaborator.

    • efrafandays Says:

      You’re loosing it! Collaborator for what? I’m a British citizen questioning your ability to respond to grievances from other British citizens as well as residents, who happen to be Jewish.

      If a Jewish constituent approached you seeking assistance after they had been taunted with Hezbollah symbols at work, what would you do?

      Also, what d’you think of suicide-terrorism against soft-targets in Israel (such as pizza-shops or shopping arcades)?

  29. Terry Kelly Says:

    efrafandays Says: 22/02/2010 at 22:16 | Reply

    “suspect as you’ve failed to do the most basic research beyond checking where your tomatoes and avocados come from”

    Well they come from ASDA, and we read the labels but, when we see West Bank we don’t realize we are being lied to by Israeli settlers.

    • efrafandays Says:

      When will you apply the same degree of concern to your Intel chip or mobile ‘phone?

  30. Terry Kelly Says:

    efrafandays Says:

    22/02/2010 at 22:20 | Reply
    You’re loosing it! Collaborator for what? I’m a British citizen questioning your ability to respond to grievances from other British citizens as well as residents, who happen to be Jewish.

    If a Jewish constituent approached you seeking assistance after they had been taunted with Hezbollah symbols at work, what would you do?

    Also, what d’you think of suicide-terrorism against soft-targets in Israel (such as pizza-shops or shopping arcades)?

    “I’m a British citizen questioning your ability to respond to grievances from other British citizens as well as residents, who happen to be Jewish”

    Oh no your not you are trying to smear me you could have worked for the Senator for Wissconsin with no shame.

    “If a Jewish constituent approached you seeking assistance after they had been taunted with Hezbollah symbols at work, what would you do?”

    A vile ugly despicapable question why dont’t you answer it for me? you have the aaaaaaanswer all ready haven’t you?

    ” Also, what d’you think of suicide-terrorism against soft-targets in Israel (such as pizza-shops or shopping arcades)?”

    Can I get back to you on that ? OK I’m back, I think it’s not a good thing, neither is runnning over children with tanks, who does that?

    • Ana Says:

      Why is it a vile and despicable question? Surely it is a very simple question. We don’t know the answers, that is why we are asking you. That is how this sort of thing is meant to work!

      Nice work calling someone a collaborator and denying that they are a British citizen. That is a particularly low comment, even for you.

  31. Patricia Says:

    Cllr Kelly,
    The questions put to you seem perfectly simple. Surely between the three of you, you could come up with a straight answer.

  32. efrafandays Says:

    Well, it’s been a blast… I have opened a new thread, raising clear questions, and am closing this one for housekeeping purposes.

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